----- Original Message -----

Sent: 10/24/2007 7:37:13 AM

Subject: Re: Fw: Who dropped Wake County off the IRV Pilot Project Exit Poll?

Elena,

Per the message from Chris Telesca below, the top of the Exit Poll said "NC State University - Board of Elections, Cary Exit Poll."

The survey didn't say Wake County Board of Elections because it was authorized by the State Board of Elections as part of the State Board's larger interest in evaluating the preference voting method. I contacted Dr. Andrew Taylor, chair of political science dept at NC State Univ to see if he could help with the Exit Poll (which everybody involved in Cary project thought would be good to have done) and he recommended contacting Dr. Cobb, because his expertise is in polling and voter behavior. Dr. Cobb originally said he couldn't help when all 36 precincts were involved, given his busy schedule, but later, after candidates dropped out of the At Large race, it became more manageable because just two District races, with 15 precincts, were the only ones with meaningful contests involving multiple candidates. So Dr. Cobb agreed to help. I asked John Gilbert (because he had taught in same poli sci dept, knew Cobb, and was very involved in the Cary project as Wake Co Elec Bd Chair) to join me when I met Cobb to explain the voting method being used, the law, the background of our education efforts in Cary, and the basic issues the State Board wanted evaluated (namely, was it understandable, did people use it, would they prefer it over old method). Cobb designed the survey questions accordingly. Bartlett reviewed the questions for the State Board to see if they got at issues impt for the evaluation, but he did not change anything. I let Cobb know that the State Board had reviewed the survey, but he likely viewed it more as a project related to Wake County since that was the focus and because he had met John and not talked directly with anybody at the State Board. He's volunteering his time, just trying to help, and not interested in all the intrigue that the opponents want to manufacture.

Onward, Bob Hall, Democracy North Carolina

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Chris Telesca <cjtelesca@earthlink.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:55:52 PM
Subject: [wake_progressives] Who dropped Wake County off the IRV Pilot Project Exit Poll?

Howdy!

On Election Day, I went around to a few precincts in Cary and saw the Exit Poll Form. I was curious which Board of Elections - the Wake County BOE, or the NC State BOE - was the BOE that was listed on the form?

And now I know - the Wake County BOE.

Question - I thought the State BOE was supposed to be evaluating the Pilot Program? I ask because I attended Wake BOE meetings and was told in no uncertain terms that the State BOE was in charge of evaluating the Pilot - and the Wake BOE would not be involved.

So what happened?

When did the Wake BOE vote to ask anyone to design an exit poll to evaulate IRV?

If they had not done so, how exactly would the SBOE evalute the Pilot Project?

If you don't believe me about the Exit Poll form - please contact me via e-mail and I will be happy to sent you the scanned Exit Poll form.

Continuing to work for Election Integrity
and Public Confidence in Elections,

Chris Telesca

>Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:43:56 -0400
>From: "Michael D. Cobb" <mdcobb@social. chass.ncsu. edu>
>User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728)
>To: Debra Goldberg <debra@recards. com>
>Subject: Re: link to press release?
>
>The press-release was an attached word file; I checked and it was
>sent (and the photos you refer to from the link are on my web
>page. It is my NC State web page.). Anyways, try this link:
>http://news. ncsu.edu/ news/2007/ 10/158-irv- voting-survey. php
>
>Nobody paid for it; it was my time that I volunteered, and Bob
>Hall's time, with his volunteers. The BOE should have read Wake
>County. I don't know about why the Wake County was dropped. I was
>asked by Bob Hall and John Gilbert to design an exit poll to
>evaluate IRV. I hope this helps.

OFF THE BOOKS AND UNDER THE TABLE = JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE IRV PILOT PROJECT! - CT
>
>MC
>
>Debra Goldberg wrote:
>>I just went to open the link you provided to review the press
>>release and saw a photo of three children, but no press
>>release. Please resend.
>>
>>I would love to have any information on the poll which you can make
>>available. I probably will contact you with questions about the
>>poll in the future. I hope that you will be included in the IRV
>>discussions which the Wake Brd. of Elections intends to hold after
>>the Nov. elections.
>>
>>My only questions at this time, which go to the issue of who
>>exactly commissioned this poll, is: who, specifically, requested
>>the poll, and who is paying for it? I also noticed that the poll
>>had "Board of Elections" at the top, but it does not say which BOE
>>-- can you shed any light on this?
>>
>>I appreciate your responsiveness and thank you for your time in
>>answering my questions.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Debbie
>>

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